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IFS 5 3.2.1.4.
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LuxQM schrieb:Gut, keine Ahnung, wie es damals war. Aber alleine anhand mancher Zertifizierungsbögen (irgendwo in einem anderen Thread schrieb ich schon, dass "optische Kontrolle" einem für ein A für die mikrobiologische Überprüfung gereicht hat) sieht man, wie unterschiedlich diese Beurteilungen sind, dass die Betriebe wirklich hoffen müssen, dass der Auditor an dem Tag nicht zufällig einen Pups quer hat und solche Kapriolen von sich lässt.

Sali!

Natürlich hat man irgendwie "Glück" wenn es so abläuft, aber wenn es eben genau anders herum abläuft sollte man meiner Meinung nach intervenieren und zur Not kann man auch ein Audit abbrechen.

Ich hatte es auch schon, dass ich nicht einverstanden war mit einer im Abschlussgespräch dargestellten Abweichung, aber in dem Fall war mein fachlicher Vorgesetzter (der mich als Standortverantwortliche leider auch nicht standortspezifisches hat vorstellen lassen und uns somit auch Abweichungen verursacht hat, aber das ist wieder ein anderes Thema), dem ich schnell einen Zettel mit meinem Veto rüberschob, nicht zu Diskussionen aufgelegt - und der anwesende Auditor war echt nicht schwierig?! Naja, so hatten wir dann ein B oder sogar C für eine angeblich nicht im Kataster aufgeführte pH-Sonde, die nachweislich seit Bestehen des Katasters enthalten war - man hatte beim Angucken des Katasters (bei dem ich nicht dabei war <!-- Icon_rolleyes --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- Icon_rolleyes --> ) an der falschen Stelle geguckt <!-- Icon_rolleyes --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- Icon_rolleyes -->

Auch für Auditoren ist vieles kein Wünsch-Dir-was, das muss uns bewusst sein! Allerdings muss uns auch bewusst sein, dass wir gerade bei Abweichungen vom üblichen (wie das oben genannte weisse Pflaster) eine nachvollziehbare (und damit schriftlich festgehaltene) Betrachtung anbringen können. Denn das ist es zumeist, was meiner Erfahrung nach dem Auditor "fehlt"!

Auf gutes Gelingen!
Saftschubse


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IFS 5 3.2.1.4. - von LuxQM - 23.08.2011, 23:24
Anforderungen an Auditoren - von laganon - 25.08.2011, 22:19
[Kein Betreff] - von LuxQM - 26.08.2011, 15:02
[Kein Betreff] - von Saftschubse - 09.11.2011, 07:54
farbiges Pflaster mit B - von laganon - 06.01.2012, 12:33

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